tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post8101681336723649833..comments2023-10-25T05:21:38.824-07:00Comments on The Lockerbie Divide: Frank Duggan, for the FamiliesCaustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-48666081353723986882014-05-28T11:14:53.195-07:002014-05-28T11:14:53.195-07:00Frank Duggan LIES about Lockerbie & the cover ... Frank Duggan LIES about Lockerbie & the cover up is unraveling (my uncle was Chief pilot of Pan Am and I met the Palestinian money launderer that worked for the Iranian National guard. Some "dirty Mossad" did the "guest list too".... it's true and I've got PROOF http://voice-of-a-moderate.blogspot.com/2014/05/sorry-frank-duggan-buck-revell-its-duck.htmlSharyn Bovathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06113414288669328756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-36386014223860426622013-05-14T20:44:25.855-07:002013-05-14T20:44:25.855-07:00How to find material for a rebuttal assignment. Cl...How to find material for a <a href="http://www.gofastek.com/fhs/rebuttal/" rel="nofollow">rebuttal</a> assignment. Click www.gofastek.com for more information.<br /><br />Cindy<br />www.gofastek.comCindyhttp://www.gofastek.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-77337855160436742772012-12-31T12:10:09.422-08:002012-12-31T12:10:09.422-08:00The selective use of polygraphs by corrupt FBI off...The selective use of polygraphs by corrupt FBI officials must stop! No one is above the law, including FBI Director Robert Mueller, who conspired to cover up the Pan Am Flight 103 incident. Google "the selective use of polygraphs"David Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14856149779154737946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-75263454277354610072010-07-25T14:15:10.045-07:002010-07-25T14:15:10.045-07:00The NYT reporter, Robert Mackey, replied to Frank ...The NYT reporter, Robert Mackey, replied to Frank Duggan as follows (my italics):<br /><br />"Mr. Duggan, My thanks for providing the link to more information on the case. am sorry if my post was unclear, but my words were not, as they seemed to be to you, a comment on the case or a judgment about Mr. Megrahi's guilt or innocence. <i>This is a news blog, presenting information on subjects in the headlines, not an opinion column making an argument.</i> It is the case that some of the victims' families have called for a new inquiry this week and I was writing to provide that information to readers who may not know that some people do have doubts about the conviction.Patrick Haseldinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133417620510887039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-6377355733324753452010-07-25T00:41:18.552-07:002010-07-25T00:41:18.552-07:00Oops, I used the wrong number of dead. 270.
Fran...Oops, I used the wrong number of dead. 270. <br /><br />Frank Duggan is active, commented at <a href="http://community.nytimes.com/comments/thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/22/scots-defend-lockerbie-convicts-release/" rel="nofollow">a NYT blog article</a>.<br />"Mr. Mackey: may I suggest that you interview some representative family members from Pan Am 103, and those who know the facts of the case such as Richard Marquise, the FBI agent in charge who wrote the book SCOTBOM. Your comment that "continued doubts about his guilt by some legal experts and family members of the victims of the bombing in Britain have led them to call for an inquiry into the atrocity itself" misrepresents the opinions of real experts (not Gareth Pierce or Prof Black) and not the overwhelming support for the verdict by US families involved, and most of the UK families, Dr. Swire notwithstanding. I would refer you to one of these:<br />http://news.bbc.co.uk...<br />Frank Duggan, President<br />Victims of Pan Am Flight 103, Inc" <br /><br />Far better than average article, obviously, just for noting there's another side that's NOT convinced. Duggan finds this annoying, and insists the real experts agree that there is no doubt anywhere, or something. My own comments were rejected, but they really don't seem needed - things there are working out quite well.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-72636059364156557632010-07-24T03:32:44.755-07:002010-07-24T03:32:44.755-07:00I wonder as well. Something says this a deeply inv...I wonder as well. Something says this a deeply invested person, perhaps Frank himself or one of the American survivors. They all sound the same to me. Something about the name "noyb" suggests he (I presume) won't be offering any explanation. I don't really care. <br /><br />But I did undersell myself above. Noybie, let me put it this way: Who I am is someone who, on review of the evidence, truly believes that Megrahi is probably innocent and the real killers of those 290 people have never been caught. <br /><br />Now, as a person who believes that, what kind of person would I be if I <b>didn't</b> get involved and alert people of the alarming possibility? <br /><br />You don't have any further comment, do you? You aren't interested in dialog or learning, just wanted to say you were angry and I shouldn't write about Frank Duggan and the families any more. Did I make any errors you can help me fix? I'd just really like a follow-up here...Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-35817454966525757682010-07-23T15:26:21.992-07:002010-07-23T15:26:21.992-07:00So now we know why and when Johnnie-come-lately Ca...So now we know why and when Johnnie-come-lately Caustic Logic got involved with Lockerbie.<br /><br />We also know that Charles became involved after he lost his brother in the September 1989 UTA772 disaster.<br /><br />However, you probably don't know that my interest stretches back as far as 11 January 1989 - the date of the funeral in Stockholm of PA103's most prominent victim, Bernt Carlsson. I straightaway suspected that Carlsson was Lockerbie's prime target, and have never been deflected from that view.<br /><br />What is Noyb's involvement? Is he too reticent (or ashamed) to explain?Patrick Haseldinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133417620510887039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-58731549753402025712010-07-23T00:06:00.345-07:002010-07-23T00:06:00.345-07:00Well hollo, Noyb.
"...his motives, which ar...Well hollo, Noyb. <br /><br /><i>"...his motives, which are true and well founded, (as you note early in your "article") date back ..."</i><br /><br />I didn't mean to say his motives WERE pure. I just don't know. But I'd presume he was mostly driven by noble if naive intentions. I tend to believe most people are mostly good. <br /><br />As for who I am and why I'm "hell bent on sticking my nose in" ... <br />I'm a conspiracy theorist, basically. I look at the dfferent sides, debunk what needs it, promote what's worthy, compare, refine, etc. I've looked at the Pentagon attack aspect of 9/11, at 9/11 in general a bit, the '99 Russian apt.bombings, the Gladio networks, Pearl Harbor, USS Liberty, USS Maine, etc... I came upon this issue late, only on Megrahi's release. I struck up a dialog with Scot named "Rolfe." at the JREF forum, and <a href="http://lockerbiedivide.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-home-base.html" rel="nofollow">the learning took off from there</a>. I decided to dig in and I found plenty of wrongness (Juval Aviv, Bollier, etc.) but plenty of cause for genuine concern (Abu Elias, John Bedford, payments to the Gaucis, John Wyatt's tests, the Frankfurt printout, PK/689, etc...). And then I kept on digging. <br /><br />Have you looked at any of my information / arguments? Are you just annoyed with this article, or do you find wider fault with what I'm doing here? <br /> <br /><i>"What's your excuse for jumping into the mix ... What are YOU looking for? 15 minutes of fame, piggybacking on the deaths of PA 103victims???</i><br /><br />I'll level with you, Noybie. I wouldn't mind some fame, or some money. The high profile of the issue is part of why I'm interested in it, and have thrown my hat in the ring over it. And I'm largely driven by ego (or lack of?), enjoying being the smart one who can see things hardly anyone else here can. I enjoy educating, and tackling big lies, and looking back to see that "hey, <i>I</i> did that!" <br /><br />So what is it I do to get those little rushes of achievement? Is it good or bad works? I think I'm contributing valuable outsider perspectives, at the very least. Devil's advocate and all that. Hardly anybody here in the States is covering this side of things, except a few loud idiot CRANKS making up disinfo. So here I am with the well-researched stuff, to make sure you guys (??) don't get too soft from a COMPLETE lack of educated opposition. <br /><br />What do you think of that? What else gripes you? I'm all ears.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-82523992428218353762010-07-22T16:53:29.784-07:002010-07-22T16:53:29.784-07:00Caustic, You're not a family member of the vic...Caustic, You're not a family member of the victims of PA103, yet you seeem quite hell bent on sticking your nose in, and requesting comments on your blog. <br />Unlike Frank Duggan, who has built deep relationships with and has been an advocate for the families for many years. Regardless of whether or not he lost a loved one, his motives, which are true and well founded, (as you note early in your "article") date back to his appointment to the President's Commission on Aviation Security. <br />What's your excuse for jumping into the mix, outside of ambulance chasing and conspiracy theorist CRANK, jumping on board with the likes of those contributing to Pr. Black's blog?????<br />Do you really need the PR that badly? Times are tough, I guess. <br />And they say the families took blood money. What are YOU looking for? 15 minutes of fame, piggybacking on the deaths of PA 103victims??? Suggest you get a mirror, prior to "writing" again, sans details on PA103 families and their relationship with Frank Duggan.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01021144643582656008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-53871953806307920982010-07-22T04:05:29.505-07:002010-07-22T04:05:29.505-07:00Hey, Charles, he wasreferring to you, wasn't h...Hey, Charles, he wasreferring to you, wasn't he?Why don't you find the context and paste it here as a comment?Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-77219504974191764022010-07-22T04:01:11.949-07:002010-07-22T04:01:11.949-07:00Thanks, Charles. I'm glad I took the time for ...Thanks, Charles. I'm glad I took the time for this piece. In point of fact, Frank's been pretty quiet lately as far as I can tell.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-53660866615942838512010-07-22T00:04:29.908-07:002010-07-22T00:04:29.908-07:00Well done Caustic! Duggan must be smoked out. He&...Well done Caustic! Duggan must be smoked out. He's a stooge for US Government of Bush's day. He thinks I am a Holocaust denierCharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03662285337385107290noreply@blogger.com