tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post8823255966846367909..comments2023-10-25T05:21:38.824-07:00Comments on The Lockerbie Divide: Watching the FlagsCaustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-87202759592321629222011-01-26T05:49:53.014-08:002011-01-26T05:49:53.014-08:00Congratulations on the one year anniversary of thi...Congratulations on the one year anniversary of this site. You have done a massive amount of work, and informed thousands of people. If just a few of such people talk to their friends and contact their governments and stand up for justice you will have made a difference in the world. I applaud your efforts.FullInquiryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17514207445854892890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-89946170715179144272011-01-26T01:23:57.732-08:002011-01-26T01:23:57.732-08:00Alberta, and FullInquiry, I salute you! What an aw...Alberta, and FullInquiry, I salute you! What an awesome insight. I hope that's the explanation, or most of it. It means that people there in some numbers remember and are concerned enough to follow up with some research. Just the kind of thing I was hoping to run into, especially in North America.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-32866716852114541092011-01-25T17:29:46.627-08:002011-01-25T17:29:46.627-08:00The “overblown” Alberta numbers are simple to expl...The “overblown” Alberta numbers are simple to explain. In the 1980’s Ronald Reagan imposed US sanctions on Libya, Americans that worked there largely left, and were largely replaced by Canadians. Alberta is oil country, most oilmen that went to Libya are from Alberta.<br /><br />Thousands of Canadians working in Libya (often rotating one month in Libya one month home) were affected by the bogus UN air embargoes in the 1990’s, and had to risk their lives on rickity, stinky ferries from Malta to Libya and back that took 2 – several days to get there (or worse) or drive overland to and from work to Tunisia or Egypt, again in bad conditions and waiting hours at the border in blistering heat in summer. All risked their lives on each trip. Many saw deadly road accidents on the crowded narrow Tunisian streets, where children darted out and were often mowed down, that were never designed to have such numbers of Libyan taxis driving on them at high speeds. <br /><br />The sanctions affected them and their families - thus their awareness and interest in your site. They also understand that the Libyan people are good people having lived and worked with them.<br /><br />Successive Governments of Canada, to their shame, couldn’t care less about PA-103. Indeed the federal Minister in charge of North Africa trade for Canada at the time of the Zeist trial (David Kilgour, a Liberal MP from Alberta), when I met with him on the subject, told me he thought that the accused had been convicted long before (which in effect they had been - at least in the North American media). So the Canadian government’s level of staying informed apparently consisted of watching CNN once in a while. Kilgour soon afterwards officially opened the first Canadian Embassy in Libya (which had quietly been opened efore the Zeist trial had ended).<br /><br />Kilgour now writes books on Sudan and claims to be a human rights activist. Where was his sense of human rights then? He and his Liberal colleagues denied the human rights of Canadians that did business with Libya to access to banking and government export programs that are supposed to be available to all citizens. They hypocritically pointed their figure at Libya and said it had a poor human rights record. What about the right not to be charged of a crime when there is no evidence (Fhima in particular) and the right to a speedy and fair trial? The Canadian Government’s policy has long been that Libyans have less rights than others do, as evidenced by its silence and inaction (and it is not alone).<br /><br />The Canadian Government’s policy is amost always designed to keep big brother to the south happy. It sacrificed a lot of grain sales and oilfield product sales to Libya so as not to raise any hackles south of the border, wile using tax dollars to subsidize grain farmers, including those in Alberta. Alberta oilfield businesses were often upset that they had to compete with American products in Libya that were supposed to be sanctioned. If one brought these facts up to the Canadian Government it fell on deaf ears or was denied. No Alberta oil equipment company has ever been compensated for their lost business in Libya caused by their own Government.<br /><br />The Alberta Government has always stayed quietly on the sidelines as well.FullInquiryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17514207445854892890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-63754819733288033002010-10-14T11:54:31.358-07:002010-10-14T11:54:31.358-07:00Sorry, Thistle, I was trying to keep it simple for...Sorry, Thistle, I was trying to keep it simple for Adam, who is after all a geographically-challenged Yank....<br /><br />It's been a while since I was in Brussels, but I certainly had the impression the "bilingual" part was strictly academic, and that hearing anything other than French spoken was a rarity.<br /><br />I didn't know about the German-speaking part though.Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16206952819245786811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-50886343297121703282010-10-14T00:39:05.068-07:002010-10-14T00:39:05.068-07:00Rolfe
Sorry to be a pedant, but actually it's...Rolfe<br /><br />Sorry to be a pedant, but actually it's in three sectors. Flanders/Flemish, Wallonia/Francophone and Brussels, which is officially bilingual. <br /><br />There is also a small German-speaking part of Belgium, but not an 'official' language.<br /><br />Language here is a minefield; unless you know where to use which language, you will meet some frosty receptions (if you speak French in Flanders) or incomprehension (Flemish in Wallonia. It is a cause of a great deal of political tension also.<br /><br />Best switch to English....1971Thistlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-59845588582540282362010-10-14T00:35:11.405-07:002010-10-14T00:35:11.405-07:00Oh, I see why you brought that up, nevermind. I wa...Oh, I see why you brought that up, nevermind. I was joking round of course.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-48524728452548601862010-10-14T00:33:51.840-07:002010-10-14T00:33:51.840-07:00CL, Belgium is divided into two sectors. The south...<i>CL, Belgium is divided into two sectors. The south (Wallonia) speaks French and the north (Flanders) Flemish, which is essentially the same language as Dutch.</i><br /><br />Thanks for the tidbit. I did know they spoke French and I thought German, didn't know how it was divided up. Also not sure why you brought it up. <br /><br />I don't know much about Belgium I admit, ther than they got invaded by Germany a few times, helped form Benelux, host NATO, and had little or no "Gladio" network activity until maybe the end, when some kind of well-armed wierdos went on a high-profile tour of carnage. (<a href="http://12-7-9-11.blogspot.com/2009/07/forty-three-years-of-deceit.html" rel="nofollow">see big essay</a>)<br /><br /><i>I really logged on to remark on your choice of words. "Doubts metastasise". That's a very intriguing image.</i><br /><br />Thanks. It's a word I've used occasional as a metaphor. As a medical person you appreciate its amazing depth.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-22202526296497056572010-10-13T09:26:04.831-07:002010-10-13T09:26:04.831-07:00CL, Belgium is divided into two sectors. The sout...CL, Belgium is divided into two sectors. The south (Wallonia) speaks French and the north (Flanders) Flemish, which is essentially the same language as Dutch.<br /><br />I really logged on to remark on your choice of words. "Doubts metastasise". That's a very intriguing image.Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16206952819245786811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-29486073998169900402010-09-15T01:53:05.817-07:002010-09-15T01:53:05.817-07:00Thistle, thanks! I'm not a very worldly person...Thistle, thanks! I'm not a very worldly person, and this Flag Counter thing is the closest I get to globetrotting, but backwards. It's awesome having the world come see my site. Thanks for scoring three different views! That's about all I could do myself, aside from badgering a few friends. <br /><br />Thanks also for being able to write in English. I cannot speak (what is it there? Belgian or Hollandaise? Kidding... mostly French, right?) <br /><br />If you're still reading, do you have any thoughts on what's good or bad about the site or things I should cover, etc.?Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-65211249122502808352010-09-14T00:34:32.025-07:002010-09-14T00:34:32.025-07:00Err, I may be responsible for three of your Belgia...Err, I may be responsible for three of your Belgian regular hits, as view from three different computers (don't ask) on a pretty much daily basis1971Thistlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-579098260586603462010-05-15T23:58:31.183-07:002010-05-15T23:58:31.183-07:00This is precisely why I set comment moderation now...This is precisely why I set comment moderation now. I hate missing comments like this from interesting people and places. Here I'm ignoring people for months at a time. <br /><br />Anonymous Libyan viewer, if you pop back - apparently you were the one (unless you're spoofing since I just admitted I can't verify IPs). That's a high reader-to-comment ration then. :) <br /><br />I realize of course the language difference, but with English sort of universal and auto-translators so handy, it must be more a lack of interest. I wouldn't be surprised at a polar inversion of the lack of interest in the U.S - It's so clear that Megrahi and Libya are innocent it's either too boring to hear more 'questions' or too aggravating to read Western statements of their opposie certainty.<br /><br />Here it's just so totally proven plus old and boring to most to bother giving it a second thought. That suits the powers that be just fine. They want it forgotten. But history doesn't sleep and how I see it this story can't last much longer. The further in time from the indictments and the further in space from Washington one gets, the weaker its hold. <br /><br />However, "truth reached" is a relative thing, not a set point. Reached by whom? The U.S. will likely resist for a long time, as the world comes around fist. You and I and most educated people who have no stake in the official story are already there. <br /><br />Anyway, thanks for the comment. Glad to now have four of your co-nationals here by now as well. Send a few more, eh?Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-2212947461184115282010-04-20T15:42:01.502-07:002010-04-20T15:42:01.502-07:00Hello. I may be your sole Libyan viewer. While the...Hello. I may be your sole Libyan viewer. While the internet is easily accessible in Libya where available, many people aren't interested in it yet. Those who are, probably view Arabic language sites. As for Lockerbie, I think that Libyans have developed a thick skin concerning the foreign affairs of their country. They don't know what to make of it, and are tired of hearing about it. <br />For me, I hope I live to see the day the truth is finally reached.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-45487352587611253842010-03-22T12:31:44.897-07:002010-03-22T12:31:44.897-07:00Sorry, unable to see IP addresses myself. Just the...Sorry, unable to see IP addresses myself. Just the countries come up. Interesting allegations there about some Canadian players... <br /><br />And of course I disagree with the PFLP angle being "all cod."Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7351904589099176534.post-23360132832216554112010-03-21T02:08:14.099-07:002010-03-21T02:08:14.099-07:00This is very interesting, CL.
Canyou get IP addr...This is very interesting, CL. <br /><br />Canyou get IP addresses of your viewers. Does 205.178.152.154 appear, a well known exoperative's site address, and registered to Canada. I bet a lot of CIA appears to come from Canada for constitutional reasons and a very wicked editor and sometime MI5 stooge was exiled there to do her dirty work on the 'pedia.<br /><br />I'm not surprised over the UK. There is a much greater belief that Lockerbie was fake from start to finish here, and most people have got as far as Swire's position, though he is wrong.<br /><br />Malta is interesting. For they got the bum-rush.<br /><br />I must be there from the UK, though my conclusions are not widely accepted yet, I get some nice support.<br /><br />I think when the current fraud over Lockerbie colapses it will collapse very fast and the story will come out very quickly. It will be up to the Americans to get the perpetrators, who are widely known and virtually all based in the US.<br /><br />For example an MI5 stooge wastelling Cadman and Swire that the PFLPGC story was all rubbish in 1994, and they should believe F&M did it. <br /><br />As the PFLP GC/Foot story is all cod, why bother to disabuse them. Bad tactics actually. MI5 was revealing both its hand and its ignorance of the CIA's real part in Lockerbie.<br /><br />It is beginning to resemble the Catholic Church child abuse scandal. Eventually, the truth begins surface and the perpetrators and their protectors are faced with their appalling over-up. <br /><br />Perhaps the Pope will resign. Perhaps the CIA will be shut down and its alumini of monstrous fakers, fraudsters and liars be bought to book.Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03662285337385107290noreply@blogger.com